John
Elkins
Introducing John Elkins
I have known John Elkins for
thirty-five years as a student, colleague, friend. John was appointed
to the staff of the Remedial Reading Centre (now the Schonell Educational
Research Centre) the year I undertook the Certificate course in Diagnostic
Assessment and Remedial Teaching. He later supervised my Masters thesis.
The focus then was on that small subgroup of students who have a learning
disability. John has maintained his interest in that group of students
and has supported the parent advocacy group, SPELD, as Chair of the
Professional Advisory Committee over many years.
Schonell had been responsible
for promoting the formation of the Queensland Reading Council. Prior
to 1970, a number of such unconnected Reading Councils, linked directly
to the International Reading Association (IRA), had been formed throughout
Australia. To foster professional links within this country, it was
proposed that an Australian Reading Association (ARA) be formed and
that this body be the link with the IRA. John was a foundation member
and subsequent president of the ARA and is a current member of the Board
of the IRA. His contribution to the area of literacy is highly regarded
internationally.
And John Elkins the teacher?
As others of John's students, especially at the post-graduate level,
I was encouraged to explore new approaches, to think laterally. John
was generous with his time, with information and with sharing professional
references and readings. His professional leadership was recognised
when he was appointed to the Chair of the Schonell Educational Research
Centre. Should he indulge in one of those rare moments when one waxes
philosophical and asks what difference one's being here has made, John
Elkins need only consider the influence he has had in shaping the professional
lives of his students several of whom progressed to provide educational
leadership in this State - a worthy legacy.
Glenda
Page
Can
you tell us about your early teaching career?
I
taught for 5 years in High schools, mainly physics and mathematics.
How
did you find your way to the Schonell Centre?
During the period I was teaching, I was completing a PG BEd
in which I studied a subject called Remedial Education led by Dr John
McLeod who was then in charge of the Remedial Education Centre. During
the subject I completed three case studies of Year 8 students who had
severe literacy problems. As I had mostly taught quite able students,
it was quite a revelation for me to get to know these students who were
in considerable difficulty trying to cope with an academic curriculum.
Who/what
promoted your interest in the field of learning disabilities?
When I had the chance to apply for a position at the Remedial
Education Centre, it seemed a great opportunity to pursue my interest
in children’s learning problems. Although I didn’t have much experience,
I was able to teach diagnostic and attainment testing, and to visit
schools where the students on the one term Certificate Course conducted
a classroom study as well as assessing several students in need of assistance.
In time, working alongside colleagues like Joan Atkinson and Kathy Cochrane
I came to learn a lot more about the intervention side of things, while
Bob Andrews and Rupert Cochrane also helped me broaden my understanding
of special education. Unfortunately, John McLeod left for the icy plains
of Saskatchewan in 1968,so I lost the supervisor of my PhD research.
I struggled on with the thesis and completed it in 1972.
Where
did this lead?
One thing I learned was that students in Years one and two who
had reading difficulties mostly had problems with sound blending. This
result wasn’t new and it seems to have been discovered several times
over the last three decades, most recently in the more sophisticated
guise of phonemic awareness. We know also that many students respond
to teaching that begins with phonemic awareness and moves on to establish
understanding of the alphabetic principle, which requires a knowledge
of common letter/sound patterns. However some students don’t learn to
read, write and spell adequately with what in the USA are referred to
as ‘scientifically based methods’, and these are those for whom I’m
happy to use the label ‘reading disabled’.
However, my interests widened over the years and I have studied a range
of topics in special education, usually with a policy focus. Nevertheless
children’s learning difficulties has always been on my research agenda.
Could
you reflect on the main influences on the field of learning disabilities
in Australia and in particular Qld?
It is clear that the establishment of the Remedial Education
Centre by Fred Schonell in 1951 gave this state a substantial advantage
that was only partially taken up by the Department of Education. While
NSW used the Certificate in Diagnostic Testing and Remedial Teaching
to train numbers of remedial teachers, Queensland used it to prepare
teachers in charge of Opportunity Classes, a purpose for which the course
was not designed. Thus, Schonell’s ideas were the first significant
influence in Queensland of which I am aware, though I expect there were
teachers who were already doing their best to help students using methods
based on their own experience. (I can recall being given handwriting
practice to do at home in Prep 1 by Irene Murray, then in charge of
the Maryborough Central Infants School.) Then, when John McLeod adopted
the Illinois Test of Psycholinguistic Abilities (ITPA) as a potentially
useful diagnostic instrument, we saw attempts at developing an aptitude/treatment
interaction (ATI) approach. That is, teaching choices were made in the
light of the areas of strength or weakness revealed by teats, particularly
the ITPA.
Another
influence was the development of the parent advocacy movement, which
I later observed in the USA on my first study leave. This led to much
greater awareness of low achievement, particularly by government. SPELD
has been a very important source of advocacy and helped secure the training
and appointment of support teachers in schools. The House of Representatives
Select Committee on Learning Difficulties in Children and Adults (The
Cadman Report) was very influential in setting Australia on a different
course to the USA in that Learning Disability (LD) was reserved for
a small subgroup of students who experienced learning difficulties.
It is a little gratifying to see that recent US research has come to
similar conclusion, with LD being reserved for those students who respond
little to intervention assistance.
Could
you talk about the field of LD – its focus on the diagnosis of problems
(e.g., use of ITPA) and follow-up remediation? (diagnostic-remedial
model).
Overall, the idea of diagnostic/prescriptive teaching led to
promising findings in clinical research. It is difficult to conduct
typical control group research on ATI, since you don’t have a common
treatment. The biggest problem with diagnostic/prescriptive teaching
was that it was inspired by the ITPA and this test was the target of
much criticism. Some was justified because it didn’t offer useful information
other than that children scored low on Sound Blending. Kirk himself
felt that the LD label was being used indiscriminately, whereas he saw
the ITPA as a tool for understanding ‘true’ LD.
What
was successful?
The use of a comprehensive assessment of students’ achievement
profiles was probably the most important source of information for support
teachers to plan methods and materials. In time we came to recognise
that IQ tests usually added little of value for planning instruction,
and we now know that the developmental trajectory of students with limited
literacy and those who fit a discrepancy definition are similar. What
was helpful was criterion-referenced instruments like the Domain Phonics
Test, the diagnostic tasks in the Neale or Gates-McKillop tests. Clearly,
it was balanced and eclectic approaches that teachers found most helpful.
Much of the recent emphasis on phonemic awareness was evident in earlier
research and practice (but we weren’t very good at ‘selling’ our ideas.)
What
met with failure?
I don’t think we made much progress in the mathematics area. One
of the reasons was that we forgot the importance of automatic response
to basic computation tasks. While conceptual aspects are important,
and invented strategies (like counting on from larger) are a useful
step, getting students to relinquish laborious counting in favour of
memory of number facts is proving a difficult challenge. The recent
emphasis on numeracy, which includes mental computation may help focus
attention on number facts. While calculators are an appropriate replacement
for pencil and paper algorithms, they do not replace mental arithmetic.
Could
you reflect on the establishment of the short training courses at the
Schonell Centre to prepare remedial teachers?
The short (or term 2) courses began around 1952 and students
were rewarded with a Certificate in Diagnostic and Remedial Teaching.
They continued until the CAEs were set up, and it was regarded as inappropriate
for universities to be offering sub degree courses. How times have changed!
Today we offer Certificate courses to teachers irrespective of whether
they hold a degree.
A similar course was offered to Speech Therapy final year students for
many years.
Do
you have comments on the best ways to apply inclusive practice?
Inclusive practice has to begin at the whole school level. The
biggest obstacle to inclusion is the egg crate organisation of the school,
which puts too much responsibility on teachers in isolation. In a recent
study I observed a middle school that used teams of four teachers to
handle 5 core subjects for 4 classes of year 8 students. The classrooms,
staff room and computing facilities were in a single block in which
fixed glass above waist height added to the sense of mutual responsibility
and support. Students could be grouped flexibly. Teachers had developed
collaborative planning and were beginning to teach together, though
this was more difficult than planning together. Specialist teachers
were also able to join in the planning sessions though as yet they still
tend to teach in their specialist spaces in traditional ways.
Similarly,
having support teachers in classrooms is likely to be more successful
if there are opportunities for teachers to observe one another, confer
about areas of concern and plan how to work together to achieve best
outcomes for students. This could be done in the context of ‘school
literacy plans’ that are now being developed in schools.
What
trends hold the best hope for providing for the ‘hard to teach’ students
( Third Wave) in the near future?
If there were a simple answer they wouldn’t be hard to teach. I
think the ‘hard to teach’ students need two main supports. One is that
ways around their problems need to be found so that they can enjoy access
to the full curriculum even though literacy and/or numeracy achievements
may not enable them to read/compute at levels needed for the class books
etc. The other is that intensive and persistent support in learning
to read, write/spell, do mental arithmetic etc needs to be continued
as long as needed. At some point it may be necessary to increase instructional
time, for example by out of regular hours support. In South Australia
there are vacation literacy programs which students may choose to attend.
By making these exciting activities, students may be given a motivational
boost as well as targeted instruction.
What
advice would you give young teachers wishing to cater successfully for
diversity in their classrooms?
a.
Find out as much as you can about your students (academically, their
interests and how they see themselves).
b. Use group work, cooperative learning and projects so you can observe
them and get to understand them as individuals and as part of subgroups.
c. Value the diversity among students and try to find ways for
every student to achieve and contribute.
d. Incorporate some student self assessment into your program.
See if there are mismatches between your views of students and their
own perspectives.
Look
at the Inclusion Index
as a way of getting a wider understanding of diversity and whether your
classroom/school is actually trying to meet the wide range of student
needs.